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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2011.03.09 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Fictional Invoice From EVENews24 Order No. 8574 - 1000pcs x 1 ISK - 35.09
Am I missing something or did "Nick Stewart" who is in Iraq pay $35.09 for 1000ISK?
The amount of PLEX this alleged operation has in storage is a little scary - if CCP doesn't squash the entire operation in one stroke, we'll potentially have a flood of PLEX onto the market, ruining the legitimate dollars-to-ISK trade. Thank goodness CCP is navigating the more cautious path.
I'm a little surprised that the database dump didn't include any information on suppliers. How does "iskbank" get their stocks if they have no suppliers?
For the moment I'll assume the article is an interesting fiction. It raises some interesting issues, but anyone taking actions against people on the "client list" without having any further evidence is basically participating in a lynch mob.
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2011.03.09 22:13:00 -
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Edited by: Mara Rinn on 09/03/2011 22:15:09
Originally by: Karontin Maysubile I think he means we, the players, might pursue justice on the people in the list.
Yeah, I meant "anyone" as in "the anonymous masses"
Originally by: Marconus Orion A lot of NC alliances on that list. I take it voting for a candidate for CSM that is in an NC alliance is a vote for RMT?
Would certainly explain why NC makes so much noise about bots. He who snuffed it, fluffed it, and all that nonsense
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2011.03.09 22:27:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis How many times does it have to be said that CCP can ban anyone they want to for any reason they choose, and no-one can do a damn thing about it for you to understand?
One would hope that CCP would try to make sure that they're only banning people for sensible reasons. Otherwise word will get around "CCP banned me because my sister didn't put out" and they'd lose customers pretty darned quickly.
Ban the wrong people -> lose customers.
Don't ban the right people -> lose customers.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. If only Damocles was this lucky. -- A vote for NC candidates is a vote for RMT [Aussie players: join ANZAC channel] |
Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2011.03.09 22:30:00 -
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Originally by: baltec1 Ah well in that case it has already started. One titan pilot (who, got a titan at around the same time as the large sum of money) got the boot from their aliance. Justice is swift in eve
But his titan and implants are still intact? And Goonswarm will happily allow the future purchaser of that character to join the alliance?
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2011.03.10 02:03:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis He's yet to explain why this is a worse motive to shoot someone than any of the other motives that inspire us to shoot each other.
I think coming back from a long holiday to find your erstwhile friends have booted you from alliance and banned you from forums/Teamspeak based on a faked invoice for RMT services would rate as a little worse than a bunch of neck beards blowing up your officer-fit Golem.
Sensible people might not do such a thing, but even sensible people faced with claims of outrageous crimes will behave stupidly. Some people are particularly vehement about RMT. -- A vote for NC candidates is a vote for RMT [Aussie players: join ANZAC channel] |
Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2011.03.10 02:07:00 -
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Originally by: Obsidian Hawk With this thread and the responses from it I would give it a week before we really hear something about this.
FanFest is 24-26 March, just sayin'. -- A vote for NC candidates is a vote for RMT [Aussie players: join ANZAC channel] |
Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2011.03.10 07:54:00 -
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Originally by: knobber Jobbler or at least that is the way you appear to be at the moment from your lack of communication on these issues and how eventually you react to them.
How is CCP going to communicate to you that they are doing stuff about RMT and botting, without communicating exactly the same information to the RMTers and botters?
How is CCP going to kerb-stomp RMTers and Botters if they let people know what they're doing?
The only way CCP can have any impact on RMTers and Botters is to trace down every supplier, seller and ingame contact and ban all those accounts simultaneously. RMTer networks are like couch grass - leave a fragment of a root in the ground and the grass will be back bigger and stronger next year.
CCP doesn't even have the option of taking off and nuking the site from orbit, since all the other plants in this metaphorical garden are legitimate, paying customers.
No communication is the only communication that CCP can really engage in, without releasing weak-sauce devblogs or giving the game away.
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2011.03.10 11:24:00 -
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Originally by: Othran Evidence which is obtained illegally IS valid evidence pretty much everywhere (that has any rule of law) outside the USA. The person/persons who obtained the evidence illegally may face charges/prosecution but that does NOT invalidate the evidence.
What does invalidate the evidence is the lack of evidence trail. If the records aren't kept correctly from the time the evidence is initially found till the time it's presented in court, the evidence is invalid and cannot be submitted as evidence for the case.
The best that you'd hope to gain from "leaked" databases that were "stolen" from an ISK seller, is a couple of good tipoffs.
Apparently the lynch mobs are in action already though. BoB/IT should do more of these metagame fake leaks since it's apparently working better than their ingame campaign.
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